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reform by closing loopholes in our tax reform for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of saving through -- we can solve the deficit issues without sacrificing things like our investments in education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it's fair for example to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care or for a scientist to shut down ground breaking research so that a multimillionaire can pay less taxes than a secretary. they don't think it's smart to close endless loopholes for wealthy americans rather than invest in our roads and to help manufacturers bring jobs back to america. they want us to bring our books in order no a balanced way where everybody pulls their weight and everybody does their part. that's what i want as well. that pie that's what i've proposed. and we can get it done, but we're going to have to make sure that people are looking at
reform by closing loopholes in our tax reform for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of saving through -- we can solve the deficit issues without sacrificing things like our investments in education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it's fair for example to ask a senior to pay more for his or...
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indicted on 21 charges of federal corruption, including bribery, money laundering, fraud, filing false tax returns. nagin was mayor of new orleans during 2005's hurricane katrina and the aftermath and prosecutors say he used his office for personal gain and accepted payoffs, free trips, and thousands of dollars in bribes. >>> hey, the dow and the s&p 500 ended the week at their highest levels in five years. now, the finish closed out a trade week that saw strong quarterly earnings from reports from major banks. markets also seemed to react positively to signs that the debt ceiling debate could be pushed back a bit. trading resumes on tuesday after the martin luther king jr. holiday. >>> let's turn to the inauguration now. former president bush 41 and 43 were, of course, invited, but they won't be there this time. the elder bush is recovering from a month-long hospital stay after being treated for bronchitis. you remember that. a spokesperson for bush 43 says the former president and his wife, laura, wish the obamas, quote, all the best for a wonderful inaugural weekend. both former preside
indicted on 21 charges of federal corruption, including bribery, money laundering, fraud, filing false tax returns. nagin was mayor of new orleans during 2005's hurricane katrina and the aftermath and prosecutors say he used his office for personal gain and accepted payoffs, free trips, and thousands of dollars in bribes. >>> hey, the dow and the s&p 500 ended the week at their highest levels in five years. now, the finish closed out a trade week that saw strong quarterly earnings...
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the tax fight for the middle-class comes from the end of the payroll tax cut, a temporary tax break that wasn't renewed in the fiscal cliff deal. >> the irs tax code is still a nightmare. it's too complex. too costly, and too unfair. >> reporter: both sides say they're open to simplifying the tax code. more than 70,000 pages in 2012. the u.s. government gives away more than a trillion dollars a year in tax breaks, but republicans say reform isn't about squeezing more money out of taxpayers. >> i think tax reform is a good idea. but now that we have resolved the revenue issue, tax reform ought to be revenue neutral as it was back during the reagan administration. >> reporter: the president and congressional democrats disagree. >> but spending cuts must be balanced with more reforms to our tax code. the wealthiest individuals and the biggest corporations shouldn't be able to take advantage of loopholes and deductions that aren't available to most americans. >> trust me, there are plenty things within that tax code, these loopholes, where people can park their money on some island offshore
the tax fight for the middle-class comes from the end of the payroll tax cut, a temporary tax break that wasn't renewed in the fiscal cliff deal. >> the irs tax code is still a nightmare. it's too complex. too costly, and too unfair. >> reporter: both sides say they're open to simplifying the tax code. more than 70,000 pages in 2012. the u.s. government gives away more than a trillion dollars a year in tax breaks, but republicans say reform isn't about squeezing more money out of...
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. >>> a northern california man facing a $14,000 property tax bill, paid his tab in rolls of coin. stacks of dollar bills. larry casper said he tried to pay half his bill weeks ago but the county would only accept payment in full. so he asked family to empty out their piggie banks. every year at this time, this becomes the park city, utah sundance film festival. sundance traditionally a mecca for independent films. some 50,000 people expected to descend on the town over the next ten days. next week you guys are traveling to sundance, right? >> i'm heading to sundance. i'll be part of those 50,000 people. it's my first time at sundance. >> you are so fabulous, aren't you? >> yes, yes, i'm trying to figure out what to wear. if you have advice, let me know. >> you'll look glamorous, no doubt. >> gloves and boots. >> i'm hearing it's rather cold. >>> it is now 18 minutes after the hour, time to get an early read on your news making national headlines this from the new york daily news as it revisits the story of katie beers. 20 years as a girl she was kidnapped and held for two weeks in
. >>> a northern california man facing a $14,000 property tax bill, paid his tab in rolls of coin. stacks of dollar bills. larry casper said he tried to pay half his bill weeks ago but the county would only accept payment in full. so he asked family to empty out their piggie banks. every year at this time, this becomes the park city, utah sundance film festival. sundance traditionally a mecca for independent films. some 50,000 people expected to descend on the town over the next ten...
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business leaders are begging for corporate tax reform. to have tax reform being part of a debt deal, all of these things will help get the economy on course faster than it is now. >> listen, it seems to me this is the absolute crux, isn't it? this sort of paralysis we've seen in washington, the very silly behavior that many would see, as we've witnessed in the last two years. this has to come to an end. i'm quite disturbed really, when margaret says john boehner is not going to get in a room and get stuff done. that's what gingrich and clinton did. they both told me that. they learned the hard way when government came to a grinding halt. and that's when they got in a room together. i would like to see the speaker and the president get in a room. i think they've been equally to blame in many ways for this impasse between them in the last four years. i don't want to see them do it the official way. you have a democratic senate, a republican congress, i don't see how stuff gets done. >> the 1996 re-election of bill clinton basically settled
business leaders are begging for corporate tax reform. to have tax reform being part of a debt deal, all of these things will help get the economy on course faster than it is now. >> listen, it seems to me this is the absolute crux, isn't it? this sort of paralysis we've seen in washington, the very silly behavior that many would see, as we've witnessed in the last two years. this has to come to an end. i'm quite disturbed really, when margaret says john boehner is not going to get in a...
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republicans are for tax breaks. we all know what the president's space was unprecedented, a set of republican leaders who said from the outset, our number one task is to make sure this president fails. no president had seen that. and understand, we were on the cusp of something almost like the great depression here and republicans stood fast and said our number one priority -- mitch mcconnell, to see the president fail. that's unprecedented. >> i agree that there is some lack of precedent on that. but there is also lack of precedent on the amount of big-ticket items that were passed with nothing but democrat loads. >> listen. >> and it has not helped. i think it's fermented a -- you know, an environment that's become increasingly uncivil. >> all right. we have exhausted this subject. i want to move on quickly and i don't have a lot of time. i want to talk about you said the president seemed antagonistic and other people say the president is more confident now and has really come into his own in the second term. she
republicans are for tax breaks. we all know what the president's space was unprecedented, a set of republican leaders who said from the outset, our number one task is to make sure this president fails. no president had seen that. and understand, we were on the cusp of something almost like the great depression here and republicans stood fast and said our number one priority -- mitch mcconnell, to see the president fail. that's unprecedented. >> i agree that there is some lack of precedent...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes but he's an elitist hip prypocr. protection for their kids and gun-free zones for ours. >> that's the ad. it's getting a lot of mileage out there on social media but a lot of people -- why bring the daughters, sasha and malia into this? >> it's not them specifically. >> you mention them specifically. >> we don't mention them specifically. we mention his kids and other kids. they are attending schools that have private security guards. we're not talking about the secret service. david gregory's kids go there, too. send their kids to schools where they have protection and then poo-poo the idea that the average american's children should have the same sort of protection. >> the white house press secretary jay carney, among other people, were very disappointed. they say, most americans agree that a president's children should not be used as pawns in a political fight but to go so far as to make the safety of the president's children the subject of an attacked a is pungent. >> they know the point. the elitist kids safety
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes but he's an elitist hip prypocr. protection for their kids and gun-free zones for ours. >> that's the ad. it's getting a lot of mileage out there on social media but a lot of people -- why bring the daughters, sasha and malia into this? >> it's not them specifically. >> you mention them specifically. >> we don't mention them specifically. we mention his kids and other kids. they are attending schools that have...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes but he is just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun-free zones for ours. >> that ad launched today. the white house called it repugnant and cowardly. highlighting nra intransigence is part of the strategy. the new poll hints at momentum for change may be starting to fade. 56% now favor an assault weapons ban compared to 62% immediately after newtown. 58% support a ban on extended magazines. last month, that was 62%. however, expanded background checks remains popular with 87% supporting checks on gun show purchases. we'll have more on the politics shortly. first, the personal two takes on what happened at the white house today. lexi holler, the uncle of noah posner joins us along with colin goddard. colin was shot four times in a classroom at virginia tech. >> alexei, i was wondering what your reaction was to what you heard. >> well, based on what we heard before, the announcement when the families met with the president and the vice president and during the announ
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes but he is just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun-free zones for ours. >> that ad launched today. the white house called it repugnant and cowardly. highlighting nra intransigence is part of the strategy. the new poll hints at momentum for change may be starting to fade. 56% now favor an assault weapons ban compared to 62% immediately after newtown. 58% support a ban...
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people feel they want to get value for their tax dollars and they are not getting it now, candy. >> might be a distinction without much difference though people saying i want him to fail and you are saying it is policies, i don't like his policies and if they go in place you certainly you don't want those poll cities to feel. >> this is a time of divided government. we have re-elected majority leadership in the house and we have a re-elected president but it's time to divide a government you can actually do big things for the country. >> so, what big things? what big thing is that -- >> specifically, have to deal with the debt, at $16 interest. you want to continue with the social safety negotiate the good, the bad and the ugly parts of that you have to have a vibrant economy. you have to have growth of the economy, but i need to see policies will actually do that. we don't see them now. >> i spoke with david plouffe in the segment before this. he said that he is confident there are enough vote he is in the huntsd requisite 60 votes in the senate to pass universal background checks for gu
people feel they want to get value for their tax dollars and they are not getting it now, candy. >> might be a distinction without much difference though people saying i want him to fail and you are saying it is policies, i don't like his policies and if they go in place you certainly you don't want those poll cities to feel. >> this is a time of divided government. we have re-elected majority leadership in the house and we have a re-elected president but it's time to divide a...
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he died from cyanide poisoning after picking up his lotto winnings at nearly half a million after taxes. >> and the cdc says 48 states now reporting widespread flu cases. more elderly now hospitalized. 29 children have died in the outbreak. >> then there's this, lady gaga about to lose her title as the most popular celebrity in twitter. justin bieber expected to pass her and have the most twitter followers. they each have over 33 million with just 46,000 separating them right now. first the mayan calendar, now this. hard to believe. >> passing of the torch. tonight, the bizarre story of manti te'o's fake girlfriend is only getting stranger. we have more details. the notre dame linebacker isn't talking. others are reportedly pointing fingers at this guy. we'll tell you who he is and what allegations he's facing just ahead. investors want. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like no atm fees, worldwide. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and no nuisance fees. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 plus deposit checks with mobile deposit. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and manage your cash and investments tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with schwab's mobil
he died from cyanide poisoning after picking up his lotto winnings at nearly half a million after taxes. >> and the cdc says 48 states now reporting widespread flu cases. more elderly now hospitalized. 29 children have died in the outbreak. >> then there's this, lady gaga about to lose her title as the most popular celebrity in twitter. justin bieber expected to pass her and have the most twitter followers. they each have over 33 million with just 46,000 separating them right now....
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jobs, tax reform, unstable middle east, just to name a few. tonight at 8:00 pm eastern time, fareed zakaria will get solutions from top political experts in memo to the president. inaugurations have come in every shape and size from roosevelt to bush. another roosevelt to another bush. we'll look back at all the top moments. >>> but first a question for all the political junkies, tuned in and watching this morning. what month has had the most presidential inaugurations? no cheating. don't go to google. if you do know the answer tweet me at randi kaye at cnn. oh! progress-oh! -oh! -oh! oh! oh! ♪ what do you know? oh! ♪ bacon? -oh! -oh! oh! [ female announcer ] with 40 delicious progresso soups at 100 calories or less, there are plenty of reasons people are saying "progress-oh!" share your story for a chance to win a progress-oh! makeover in hollywood. go to facebook.com/progresso to enter. i got this snapshot thing from progressive, plugged it into my car, and got a discount just for being the good driver i've always been. i'm just out here
jobs, tax reform, unstable middle east, just to name a few. tonight at 8:00 pm eastern time, fareed zakaria will get solutions from top political experts in memo to the president. inaugurations have come in every shape and size from roosevelt to bush. another roosevelt to another bush. we'll look back at all the top moments. >>> but first a question for all the political junkies, tuned in and watching this morning. what month has had the most presidential inaugurations? no cheating....
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ready to play ball, he was going to validate their years of investigation and their millions of federal tax dollars that were spent to build a case against him and he also wanted to be able to rebuild his public image. yet he did neither of those things, he challenged the heart of the anti-doping agency's report was that he actually led and facilitated the use on his cycling team. then the second part of that was even worse because he admitted to bullying, he seemed callous, he seemed rep tillian. it was the sort of thing where anybody who tuned in because they wanted to see contrition, remorse, i don't think people should have to do the contrition cabuki theater, but you don't call up oprah winfrey to do an interview unless you're going to do the oprah winfrey interview. >> does he stand a chance in your mind of ever rehabilitating himself, his image or his career in the sports world? >> let's take the competition piece, you saw it has a lifetime ban on him. the condition for that being removed is him testifying under oath to usada and being willing to name corrupt officials or corrupt cyc
ready to play ball, he was going to validate their years of investigation and their millions of federal tax dollars that were spent to build a case against him and he also wanted to be able to rebuild his public image. yet he did neither of those things, he challenged the heart of the anti-doping agency's report was that he actually led and facilitated the use on his cycling team. then the second part of that was even worse because he admitted to bullying, he seemed callous, he seemed rep...
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people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's such a shame. i think david is right because we have low debt service right now. we're paying less interest on our debt than we had in the reagan and bush administrations before because interest rates are so low. >> but they're going to go up one day. >> but not for several years. i'll say it, we should be borrowing more at 30-year, 3% terms, so we can invest in the long-term growth of this economy. this is not the time for further austerity and cuts. if we were even to consider that right now, it would be a disaster. and what we're doing right now as the president correctly said today, is actua
people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's...
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again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got a shortfall of $43 billion. they need to prioritize bills on that day. they can put off others. we're not entirely sure that prioritizing payments is legal but that's probably what they will have to do. the treasury could wait until it has enough revenue on hand to cover one full day's payments and means all the bills would be paid late and we know how that storts starts to look. johnny isakson is a member of the senate finance committee. senator, thank you for being with us. i wanted to talk with you for quite some time. you have an extensive, extensive business background. and you can agree that deciding to pay some bills but not others while you wait to scrape up enough cash to make payments isn't a sustainable way of doing business. would you agree with that? >> no question about it. that is all wrong. you're exactly right. >> what are the principles that you stand for and many in the republican party agree with and some in the democratic party, that we do have to deal w
again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got a shortfall of $43 billion. they need to prioritize bills on that day. they can put off others. we're not entirely sure that prioritizing payments is legal but that's probably what they will have to do. the treasury could wait until it has enough revenue on hand to cover one full day's payments and means all the bills would be paid late and we know how that storts starts to look. johnny isakson is a...
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higher taxes on households making above $450,000 and other tax increases will raise an additional $600 billion in revenue by 2022. but that's not enough. and as democrats and republicans gear up over the next few months to debate spending cuts, debt limits and the federal budget, there still is not a credible plan out there that puts a serious dent in the debt. but douglas durst still holds out hope that one day he'll be able to retire his dad's debt clock. >> i'm an optimist. we would have a very big party. >> reporter: alison kosik, cnn, new york. >>> speaking of money, if you're looking for that job that really pays, you probably want to get a college degree or pick up a second degree. that is right. ali velshi and christine romans take a look at the careers and the schools that can help you get ahead. >> thanks. okay. so when christine and i were in college, the idea was to study kind of whatever you -- those were in the days before cable -- study whatever you wanted and the world was your oyster if you got a university degree. if you had to go back and make a choice today about wh
higher taxes on households making above $450,000 and other tax increases will raise an additional $600 billion in revenue by 2022. but that's not enough. and as democrats and republicans gear up over the next few months to debate spending cuts, debt limits and the federal budget, there still is not a credible plan out there that puts a serious dent in the debt. but douglas durst still holds out hope that one day he'll be able to retire his dad's debt clock. >> i'm an optimist. we would...
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he had won an election over the tax issue and the republicans lost over the tax issue. they're pushing that so far off the table that i don't even hear them talking about tax reform anymore. the president is making a gamble here, that the public will see the republicans as irresponsible and absurd, as he called them, that you can't let the united states of america default, that's not who we are, and that the american public will be embarrassed by this fight. the republicans are making the calculation, you know what, the public is going to be on our side, because we have to get on a path of fiscal sustainability over the long term so they're going to be with us, they're going to want spending cuts. >> we've been measuring the political pressure on the speaker as it builds, it seems, to a big climax here. how much pressure is he in right now? >> huge amount of pressure. don't forget, he didn't have a great time in the fiscal cliff fight. he couldn't bring a majority of his own caucus to vote for that final proposal. this time, his own caucus has put him on notice. a, don'
he had won an election over the tax issue and the republicans lost over the tax issue. they're pushing that so far off the table that i don't even hear them talking about tax reform anymore. the president is making a gamble here, that the public will see the republicans as irresponsible and absurd, as he called them, that you can't let the united states of america default, that's not who we are, and that the american public will be embarrassed by this fight. the republicans are making the...
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listen these guys won't even ban assault weapons, how can you trust them on taxes and spending. i see it as building up his political position which is not wrong but i don't think in his heart of hearts he thinks he's going to pass any significant legislation. >> congressman king in the studio after my asking all the time. >> i couldn't stay away from you, soledad. >> she's not really a tough interviewer is she? >> she's very nice and multiracial -- >> are we rolling on this? i love this. keep the nice part. i would appreciate that. >> she was the irish-american woman of the year, there you go. >> and i accepted. nice to have you congressman, appreciate it. >>> other stories making news john has that for us. >> lots of questions about the story involving notre dame's manti te'o and his girlfriend who was supposed to have died but it turns out she never existed at all. so was te'o the victim of an elaborate hoax or somehow involved in a hoax. one thing is crystal clear right now, the university of notre dame is standing by its star player. cnn's ted rowlands in live in south bend
listen these guys won't even ban assault weapons, how can you trust them on taxes and spending. i see it as building up his political position which is not wrong but i don't think in his heart of hearts he thinks he's going to pass any significant legislation. >> congressman king in the studio after my asking all the time. >> i couldn't stay away from you, soledad. >> she's not really a tough interviewer is she? >> she's very nice and multiracial -- >> are we...
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what i said was we weren't going to extend bush tax cuts for the wealthy. and we didn't. >> joining me now, john king, john king, welcome, welcome. help me understand what exactly the president is saying. is he saying he absolutely will not negotiate with congress when it comes to the debt ceiling? and to point out, i had ben stein on, an economist. he said, brooke, saying not negotiating is a negotiating tact tactic. >> ben is correct in that regard. what the president is saying, he's not going to repeat two years ago. he did get involved in detailed negotiations and the president, in that same news conference, said if the republicans feel they have to have some package of spending cuts to go with raising the debt ceiling, then let them put their own plan together and see if they can get the votes in congress. he's not going to help them. he said he was not going to let the republicans put a gun to the head of the american people, or he was not going to let them attach a ransom. the president used tough language today and part of what he was saying is i wo
what i said was we weren't going to extend bush tax cuts for the wealthy. and we didn't. >> joining me now, john king, john king, welcome, welcome. help me understand what exactly the president is saying. is he saying he absolutely will not negotiate with congress when it comes to the debt ceiling? and to point out, i had ben stein on, an economist. he said, brooke, saying not negotiating is a negotiating tact tactic. >> ben is correct in that regard. what the president is saying,...
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but there's a road to citizenship that you are able to go on if you pay your back taxes, if you have a criminal investigation, you find out there's no crimes, no serious crimes. and you get at the end of the line. but there has to be a path. three, we've got to have family unity as a central core of any policy. you can't deport the parents and leave their 5 million kids here. there are 2 million dreamers. so those are some of the elements of wa we talked about, and i know that the president supports those core elements. we expect there will be bipartisan support for that, as well. >> can you give us a sense of the timing on this? when will we see these plans. >> it's going to depend on the congress, as well. i expect in the next month you'll see these proposals, certainly already, senator mccain and graham and in len dez and others are working together to come up with a comprehensive package. remember, there's been some movement from the republicans as a result of the election. i think they're going to want do it on a bipartisan basis. >> go back to guns for a minute. you listed thin
but there's a road to citizenship that you are able to go on if you pay your back taxes, if you have a criminal investigation, you find out there's no crimes, no serious crimes. and you get at the end of the line. but there has to be a path. three, we've got to have family unity as a central core of any policy. you can't deport the parents and leave their 5 million kids here. there are 2 million dreamers. so those are some of the elements of wa we talked about, and i know that the president...
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interview with david gregory, i talked about health care for the nation, climate change, redistributive tax policies -- these are things that republicans oppose on principle, and he did that, though, which makes it worse, in a conversation, and there was a subtle link to this issue of race. it makes republicans look like they don't oppose president obama for all these principle or policy reasons that were just brought up, but rather because he's black, and that's what is really, really disturbing and destructive, that we have a serious disagreement with policy and principles, not because of who the president is or what his race is. >> l.z., response? >> you see what i mean, carol? that's a perfect example of what i talked about earlier. there are racist facets of republican party. when you look at comments made by republican john sununu, how could you not see the hint of racism in his voice when he talks about the president? are there disagreement when's it comes to policy? absolutely. let's remember the republican party actually was the party that gave us the epa. the republican party gave
interview with david gregory, i talked about health care for the nation, climate change, redistributive tax policies -- these are things that republicans oppose on principle, and he did that, though, which makes it worse, in a conversation, and there was a subtle link to this issue of race. it makes republicans look like they don't oppose president obama for all these principle or policy reasons that were just brought up, but rather because he's black, and that's what is really, really...
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. >> asking barack obama not to be a big-spending, high-taxing liberal is a denial of everything that we've learned about him in his career. it's much better for the house republicans to say, this is what we're prepared to do. there are dozens of places you can dramatically change spending without having to get involved in a general crisis over the u.s. debt. >> does he have a point? do you think this is a message from the former speaker that's worth heeding? >> well, we definitely want to work with president obama, and we're at the beginning of the 113th congress. i would also say that this is our moment, though. the american people know that our economy is struggling right now, partly because of the debt that is impacting american families, hard-working taxpayers all across this country. when president obama was in the senate, when he was a u.s. senator, he voted against raising the debt ceiling. and he said it was a lack of leadership that had brought us to this point. and so i would, at the beginning of this congress, hope that the president would make this a new start, where we c
. >> asking barack obama not to be a big-spending, high-taxing liberal is a denial of everything that we've learned about him in his career. it's much better for the house republicans to say, this is what we're prepared to do. there are dozens of places you can dramatically change spending without having to get involved in a general crisis over the u.s. debt. >> does he have a point? do you think this is a message from the former speaker that's worth heeding? >> well, we...